Carroll and his guest, Summer Nemeth, discuss construction of the Ka'ena Point Predator Fence. They ask the hard questions such as why construction has started now, during nesting season.
During the second hour Carroll and Summer discuss DLNR, Laura Thielen, Mark Young, and the head of law enforcement job held open for him for more than a year while he completed his duties with the United States Coast Guard. Now, why did Young quit after only a few months on the job? Laura will also be leaving in a couple of weeks. Should she be involved in hiring his replacement after this fiasco? Why should she have any say at all?